Scott smith

[Hit Boy]

Here he is...good luck bro

[Hit Boy]

Go get em

[nakedchoke]

smith by ko rd.1

[Guest_Bullet]

You were wrong...NOR CAL!!!

[napalm]

looks like hitboy and naked choke were very wrong tonight

[nakedchoke]

not taking away from terrell but according to sherdog, smith was a victim of a bad referee that allowed for action after he had called for a break.


"Smith worked well early, shutting the door on multiple takedown attempts. Slamming his way out of an armbar, Smith gave Terrell a taste of his power by firing down strikes, but the “Soul Assassin” remained calm.

A couple minutes into the 185-pound fight, first-time UFC referee Marco Lopez, who traditionally works out of Florida and was flown in at the behest of California State Athletic Commission Executive Officer Armando Garcia, himself a former boxing referee from the Sunshine State, was in the middle of a flap that had Smith and his camp complaining.

With Terrell standing behind Smith and action stalemated, the ironworker said he relaxed after Lopez called for a break in the action. At that moment Terrell yanked the Nor Cal fighter backwards to put him on the canvas.

Smith looked up and yelled at Lopez, but the referee let action continue and Terrell capitalized, eventually locking in a rear-naked choke for the submission win. "

[NorCalStyle]

Smith was outclassed and must have forgot "protect yourself at all time"

By my acount

Tyson stops Uriah
Terrell Stops Smith

NCFA 2
CCFA 0

Let the excuse making begin.

[Guest]

I would say that Terrell wins against Smith 90% of the time but Tyson over Urijah well Tyson got lucky, Urijah wins that 90% of the time

[nakedchoke]

Originally posted by NorCalStyle@Apr 16 2006, 09:54 AM
Smith was outclassed and must have forgot "protect yourself at all time"

By my acount

Tyson stops Uriah
Terrell Stops Smith

NCFA 2
CCFA 0

Let the excuse making begin.
i'm not saying smith didn't screw himself by not protecting himself and i'm not saying terrell wouldn't have won anyways, nor did i even see wat happened. but by the sherdog account, if the ref says to break and terrell jumps on smiths back and the ref lets it go, thats bad officiating. its not like he just got a free punch, he got the most dominant position possible. congrats to terrell for the win tho.

[NCFA]

Lets all be cool now. This forum is already bad enough.

Mr.Smith let himself become the victim unfortunatly. You really need to protect yourself at all times.

[NCFA]

Oh, and no way Urijah ever beat's Tyson. Ever.

[lil phil]

urijah will beat tyson i think urijah underestiaed him the first time greatfigt eiher way

[Guest]

The Referee calling for break in the action superceeds protect yourself at all times. Another lame CSAC decision to bring in a Ref that should not have been in there. Did not see the fight but have heard from many that it was BS. Thats how it goes sometimes, exact same thing happened to Yves Edwards.

[Guest]

Originally posted by Guest_Bullet@Apr 15 2006, 09:38 PM
You were wrong...NOR CAL!!!
wtf I didn't post this bullet

[Hit Boy]

This is from UFC.TV

"David Terrell made his return to the Octagon for the first time in over a year a successful one as a submitted Scott Smith with a rear naked choke in the first round of their middleweight bout.

“I want to keep fighting and stay active,” said Terrell, who was sidelined by injuries for over 14 months following a loss to Evan Tanner for the vacant UFC middleweight belt in 2005.

The fast-paced action saw Smith taking control early behind a couple of slams while Terrell held guard. After a few moments on the ground, Smith stood and implored Terrell to join him. Terrell was able to push Smith towards the fence, where he landed a few knees to the back of the leg, but after a few stagnant moments, referee Marco Lopez apparently told the fighters to break, and a moment later, to resume. In the interim, Terrell put Smith on the canvas, and as Smith looked to Lopez to complain, Terrell quickly got his back and sunk in the fight ending choke at 3:08 of the opening stanza.

With the win, Terrell improves to 2-1 in the UFC; Smith falls to 0-1 in the Octagon."



Keep your head up Scott, I am sure you will be back stronger than ever and will have a bright future in the UFC

[Ike]

NCFA 2
CCFA 0

I bet you think that is cute you little fagget!

Tyson can make weight to fight Urijah for his belt but cant make weight to defend the 145 title sounds like a fucking joke to me.

Already talking shit about the Smith/Terrell fight not a suprise coming from you idiots.

You Nor-Cal gals got big mouths and know nothing about respect.

If you would show some respect this could be a great rivalry, instead you act like NCFA is a gang and not a fight team.

[napalm]

hey Ike,I am just wondering how someone saying that the score is 2-0 is disrespectful?Oh i like how you display your class though by insulting us..We(ncfa)have never said anything rude to or about any ccfa fighters..Also please do not try and teach us about respect while on a different thread your trying to talk shit to some guy about "mtv" and "steroids"...


Here is some advice..If you wanna talk shit about us then step up and tell who you are..then talk shit and dont be suprised if you get bitch slapped

[just a fan]

do eithe rof you guys have web sites?? i would lilke to see who you are,

just a fan

[NCFA]

www.ncfa.tv

were all there.

[napalm]

Puts popcorn in the microwave awaiting Ikes clever response..

You see Ike we(ncfa)never bashed or disrespected Scott Smith or anyone from ccfa..So when you tried to tech us about respect while talking shit about us at the same time you kind of made yourself look like an ASSCLOWN..

Someone simply stated that it was..NCFA-2 and CCFA-0

that is not talking shit.That is fact

[Ike]

Norcalstyle posted ncfa 2 ccfa 0, I'm not saying thats disrespectful but saying Scott Smith was outclassed, and let the excuses begin is disrespectful.

If you think telling Warpath not to waste his time with Roger is disrepectful, I can tell arguing on the forum with you is pointless.

I dont know who you are NCFA but someone posted you hadn't won a fight yet so I dont think bitch slapping me would be a good idea.

[napalm]

well people tell me all the time shit i do is not a good idea yet i keep doing it so why stop now

[Guest]

hey Napalm i am a supporter of all MMA and i think NCFA has alot of talented fighters, but to say the NCFA camp has never disrespected a CCFA fighter is a lie. On your forum a few months back mant active members from the NCFA camp were bashing Urijah Faber (a stand up kid and a great fighter). And we should never have to listen to anyone from the NCFA camp talk shit about other fighters making excuses after Mr Terrells interview on UFC.tv. Just my opinion

[napalm]

guest,if i recall correct on our forum we were bashing people talking for UF bashing Tyson..We as a whole respect UF(dont want to slaughter his name) very much..the problem is that people who have nothing to do with either camp(ncfa,ccfa) get too involved..i fully know people will always support there friends/training partners..i would expect nothing less

[NORCALSTYLE]

Man IKE can almost see you crying as you angrily pound your key board....Still not going to change the fact the the scoreboard says

0

Go ahead and respond with something else brilliant as you fight back the tears.

[California Patriot]

Tyson will go down next meeting wherever that occurs and the same if Terrell steps up to the garbage win he got. BUT A WIN IS WIN.

[soilder boy]

The Truth is Ike is a pussy. Thats all there is to it. Other wise why hide behind a computer? http://www.keepersofthecage.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r.gif Tell everyone who you are. Don't be scurred. Life is what you make of it, and nothing else. Who knows what will happen if either of those fight have a rematch One thing we all know right now is who won the first ones. See you around Pussy. http://www.keepersofthecage.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[NCFA]

"I dont know who you are NCFA but someone posted you hadn't won a fight yet so I dont think bitch slapping me would be a good idea."

LOL

[Guest]

Terrell always has been a dirty fighter, so it doesnt suprise me at all that he would pull something. The sad thing is, that he is super talented and would have made a fight of it regardless. I was at a Warriors Challenge in Jackson were Vernon White was beating the hell out of him. Terrell was almost out, and Terrell kept spitting his mouthpiece out, then he would take his ear guards off to stall for time. Thats right he was wearing ear guards in a cage fight. Plus in the fighter meeting all he did was ask how many times he could do something before he would be DQed. These are facts, so am I talking shit ?

[napalm]

In that fight Dave was wearing ear guards because he had ear surgery 3 or 4 days prior to the fight and was thrown in a fight by his coach..that is fact not an "excuse"

[Guest]

I cant believe Cesar would do that 3-4 days after surgery. Just heard Smith is filing an appeal with CSAC and a decision should be in by the end of the week, wow. UFC is letting them use all video and audio to help. Smith said its not personal against Terrell, just wants a no contest or to make sure it doesnt happen again in the future. Credit MMAWEEKLY.

[NCFA]

"Terrell always has been a dirty fighter, so it doesnt suprise me at all that he would pull something."

What did he pull?

I dont really care what the CSAC decides, I doubt that Smith will get a rematch. By all accounts that I have heard (from people who were at the fight) Dave was controlling the fight. It was really only a matter of time before Mr.Smith got caught with something.

Good luck to him and his team in all their endeavors. FUCK the piss drinking nobody's on this forum who anonymously spout bulls!&@t that they have neither the knowledge nor experience to back up.

[Guest]

What did he pull ?, taking advantage of Scott not defending himself when the Ref yelled break, which by the way superceeds protect yourself at all times. I really dont fault him that much though. The Ref is 95% at fault. I think it is funny how some people are so proud of a tainted win. Its like Coleman bragging about beating Shogun. Or Vitale bragging about his KO win over Lindland

[Guest_guest]

I love it, I was begining to think that the hit boy, thomas denny (wildman) were the only ones around here that had the balls big enough to talk shit, its about time someone else showed up. NCFA I love to hear you back your shit up. It brings excitement. shit let me know when you guys are fighting next. I got to to be there. I vist alot of forums mainly the boxing ones and i love to read the fightes talking shit to each other. HYPE HYPE sells. I love it.

and to the idiots that are gonna say its only a forum!! yes its just a forum, its a place to hype shit up and let the fans and fighters have something to look forward to. i dont care if you are 0-20 bring excitment and I am there.......peace out conco de mayo here I come..eee ha

[Technician]

Smith would win the fight 90% of the time. He hits harder he is more intense and more well rounded. Scott was dominating the fight on the feet and on the ground. The arm bar attempt was more of a set up for a big slam. I always remeber the ref saying protect yourself at all times and obey all my commands. Which is higher on the orders list? Smith did let himself get caught but at the same time the ref said break and should have jumped in and stopped it. I say no contest try again next time. Sorry Scott see you at camp.

[napalm]

lol at anyone getting arm barred on purpose to set up a slam on someone..I dont care who it is..thats not a good idea and sounds fishy to me

[NCFA]

"Its like Coleman bragging about beating Shogun. Or Vitale bragging about his KO win over Lindland"

compairing those finishes to this one is one of the most idiotic things I think I have ever heard. You my friend are an idiot.


Here is the bottom line...
If Scott was anywhere near the calaber of Terrell he would have fought out of the position he was in as soon as he realized that there was no stoppage.
He had enough time to mount a defence after the ref did what he did and before he tapped out to the choke.

Why turn to putty in the middle of a fight? Does anyone here honestly beleive that he had no chance to fight back because of the ref?

By all reports I have heard, Smith was not able to land a single punch while the fight was standing (Smiths strong suit). We have photo proof that Smith ate at least one hard left while standing. My point is that Smith posed nothing in this fight and it was over for him when he got outta bed that day.

Some of you guys are just nuts...

Giving Dave Terrell (the best jiu-jitsu guy in North America) an armbar just so you can try to drop him on his head once is a VERY bad stradegy. But judging by some of the brainless shit I have heard here it does'nt suprise me in the least to hear it.

[Guest]

You have seen one picture online and are basing all of your posts on that ? Maybe you should listen to folks who were there before saying anything or wait till you can watch the fight. ITs a shitty way to win, Terrell should want a rematch more than Scott. If he was dominating the fight the way you say he was even though you didnt see it. It takes a good win away from your boy. He cant really put a notch on his belt, and everyone knows that its a tainted win. So if I was Terrell I would go to CSAC and ask for a rematch ASAP. They are going to end up turning it into a no contest anyways.

About fighting out of having your back taken by someone as good as Terrell with hooks in, give me a break, you are really stretching. World class grappler has his hooks in, you got a slim chance at getting out of that especially when you go from breaking and not defending yourself.

Its funny how you celebrate this victory so much. That I believe is the point about Coleman/Shogun etc. Its not a win like the many others Terrell has. Its is a flukeish win period, it wasnt like he blasted him like Lindland or submitted him like Villasenor. He took advantage of a situation. Ask your boy did he hear the REF yell break ? either way its on the ref to break the action. Point blank, its not legit, and forever will be tarnished until they can do it again, and may the best man win.

Here is a great idea. Your camp vs. the CCFA guys. It would have to be a WEC show since it would take some money to make it happen. That would sell out a large Nor Cal Venue easy. What I do like is that basically you got your 2 best teams in Nor Cal with a serious rivalry, is it 2 Pac vs. Biggie ? I hope not, but its great for the fans.

[napalm]

Guest,us(ncfa)vs CCFA in any event sounds good to me

[Technician]

Maybe its not the smartest plan to give up an armbar however jujitsu is a lot more effective when you are not getting hit. Scott didn't just turn into putty but as said before best jujitsu guy on your back shouldn't be easy to defend or shake off. The moral of the story is poor decision by ref and the rest is up in the air and speculation. Either you like Smith or you like Terrell. Lets all hope for a next time to set Terrell straight.

[Guest]

um, dave was behind him before that stuff with the ref occured. Smith was done anyways.

[Guest]

nor cal style, watch what you say. Kharma is a good friend of mine. I'll tell her to stop by and pay you an extended visit.-ALLCALI BABY!!!!

[NCFA]

"Kharma is a good friend of mine. I'll tell her to stop by and pay you an extended visit."


um, I'm what you might call a karma-cop. Divine Retribution is a specialt of mine.

[Technician]

Originally posted by Guest@Apr 21 2006, 04:46 AM
um, dave was behind him before that stuff with the ref occured. Smith was done anyways.
this is true dave was behind smith before the ref incident however holding a bear hug around someones waist isn't going to win the fight. Also it wouldn't be the first time someone has escaped a submission from a great grappler. Remember MMA not grappling tourney.

[Guest]

I was at the fight. Smith never got off, he did defend takedowns very well and was making Terrell work, but even when Smith had top position he never took advantage of it. I don't know if he was worried about subs or if Terrell kept him off balance with his butterfly guard. Smith did stand up and call Terrell up, I'm thinking because he wanted Terrell to play in his world(stand up). Terrell landed the only significant punch right after that.
As far as what happened after that, I'm thinking only the people in the ring know for sure. From what I can gather from all the different accounts, the ref said break as Terrell was starting to pull Smith down, ang then told them to fight on. Without the tape It is impossible to tell exactly when he said break and how much time elasped before he said fight on. I was there and couldn't answer that.
We all know of instances where one thing changed the outcome of a fight(or could have) and we have been unhappy about it(stood up to quick,grabbing the fence,poked in the eye).
I seriously doubt that they will change the outcome of this one(CSAC),but it will be interesting to see how they handle it.
Everyone who is passionate about this sport are going to say their guy was right!!! That is what makes this sport great, the passion.

Best of luck to all the fighters.

[NCFA]

i heard that smith is not filing anything other than a complaint with the CSAC.
He is not attempting to get the decision overturned at all and has no idea where that rumor came from.

any truth to this?